# PEP-8: clarify if multiline argument list with a closing \`)\` on a separate line is acceptable

**URL:** <https://discuss.python.org/t/pep-8-clarify-if-multiline-argument-list-with-a-closing-on-a-separate-line-is-acceptable/2948>\
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**Created:** [January 2, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/pep-8-clarify-if-multiline-argument-list-with-a-closing-on-a-separate-line-is-acceptable/2948 "2020-01-02T16:01:42Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 1:07am UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/pep-8-clarify-if-multiline-argument-list-with-a-closing-on-a-separate-line-is-acceptable/2948/7 "2020-01-03T01:07:35Z")

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So the root of this argument is that Black produces code that isn’t always in compliance with PEP 8. I say this is fine – if you use Black you don’t need PEP 8 to tell you how to format your code. (PEP 8 is still useful for other things like naming things.)

Black optimizes for a different goal than PEP 8; PEP 8 optimizes for readability while Black sometimes compromises readability in order to satisfy other goals such as minimizing lines changed as code evolves.

I don’t want to compromise PEP 8 though.

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