Shedding light on a three-month suspension

[tim.one (Tim Peters)]

Very briefly:

@KeithTheEE

I’m sure there are some folks who’ve lost trust, but I haven’t lost trust in them, and I doubt I’m alone.

There at least hundreds on each side, sure. Note that Ethan’s dissent on my ban annoucement is one the most-liked replies in the history of the PSF’s Discourse, and despite that people feared reprisal.

Additionally, the equivalency that is being made between suspension, and “ban” is really disingenuous.

Perhaps more that I’m just old Until you mentioned it just now, I had never consciously noted that my “ban announcement” actually said “suspension” instead. I don’t know what difference exists in your mind. None exists in mine. This kind of thing was almost always called “a ban” before. Even Victor Stinner’s external history fell back into calling it a “ban” after quoting “suspension” from the topic’s title. Victor has been around a long time too.

\With respect to suspending you from the project vs dpo: By your own comments, you evaded the suspension:

@tim.one

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Which Guido leveraged in the background, to pick my brain via email to educate himself sufficiently to conclude for himself that “bloc STAR” was the best choice. Which he did push to adoption, without mentioning my covert role.

Lost me there. There was no prohibition whatsoever against communicating with anyone whosoever for the duration. Guido (among others) & I corresponded frequently. It was “covert” in this case to keep focus solely on the goal of bringing the election-method topic to quick resolution. It would have served no purpose to mention my name again, but could well have worked against the goal. I didn’t care about who got “credit”. Neither did Guido.

Once the poll was open, Gregory Smith (one of the SC people who voted to ban me) posted a brief “bloc STAR” endorsement statement on my behalf. He sent email to me first in that case, albeit by mistake. He wasn’t “evading” my suspension either, and neither was I when I replied to his email offering my endorsement and saying it was up to him whether to post it, whatever he thought best.

But we don’t know if blocking some of the users we’ve had reported to us from DPO will cause them to jump to github issues to evade the moderator action.

I’m kind of lost again. I wasn’t at all suspended from Github. The PSF has no control over my Github account. All along I continued to comment on issues and do a bit of code review on pull requests. What I couldn’t do for the duration is close issues, or close or merge PRs. In that sense it was just making a bit of extra work for those with commit bits to do that stuff.

For the rest, my focus here remains on the specific list of 10 claimed “CoC violations”. I accepted “the ban” (or, if you must, “the suspension”) and won’t discuss that part anymore.

If someone else wants to discuss that with you, fine by me.