# Suspension of Franz Király

**URL:** <https://discuss.python.org/t/suspension-of-franz-kiraly/103776>\
**Category:** PSF\
**Created:** [September 16, 2025, 2:09pm UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/suspension-of-franz-kiraly/103776 "2025-09-16T14:09:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![tim.one](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/tim.one/32/282_2.png) [@tim.one](https://discuss.python.org/u/tim.one)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2025, 11:32pm UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/suspension-of-franz-kiraly/103776/79 "2025-09-29T23:32:37Z")

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> [@pathunstrom](#):
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> > [@tim.one](#):
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> > The observation itself was made in good faith
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> Do you actually believe that if the only enforcement you hear about is bans, that that’s all that’s happening?

I do not, no. That’s why _I_ made the suggestion. While I do not, I’m aware of that some others do.

> [@](#):
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> You advanced the idea. Did you believe your own argument?

Yes. In a similar way, I don’t believe that chocolate milk comes from brown cows, but there’s no “bad faith” involved in pointing out that a surprisingly high percentage of Americans do.

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> Or were you advancing a controversial point to start a fight?

No. No interest at all in fighting. As already said, the PSF took the suggestion as intended. For example, here from the chair of the PSF’s CoC WG:

> [@Changing PEP 13 to remove the CoC responsibility from the SC](https://discuss.python.org/t/changing-pep-13-to-remove-the-coc-responsibility-from-the-sc/71885/15):
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> I strongly agree with that. I will put this on the COC WG agenda for the next meeting.

If you don’t like it, as already said that’s fine by me. I was hoping to make a useful suggestion. I failed.

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> That’s the very model of arguing in bad faith.
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> Either we can take you at your words or we can’t.
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> Which is it?

You can, but it would be wise first not to leap to conclusions based on preconceptions. It’s part of the Community Guidelines _here_ to assume good faith. In my view I did not give you sufficient cause to take such offense. But happy to just to let it drop, with my apologies for unintended offense.

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