# The PEP 8 song (by Leon Sandøy)

**URL:** <https://discuss.python.org/t/the-pep-8-song-by-leon-sandoy/7166>\
**Category:** Python Help\
**Created:** [February 11, 2021, 9:28am UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/the-pep-8-song-by-leon-sandoy/7166 "2021-02-11T09:28:32Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 9:28am UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/the-pep-8-song-by-leon-sandoy/7166/1 "2021-02-11T09:28:32Z")

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A co-worker pointed me to this master piece by Leon Sandøy. If you like Tears for Fears or Donnie Darko, you’ll enjoy it for sure!

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/python1/original/2X/3/344195cc9b609f153be399d954b823abddefc77d.jpeg "🎵 The PEP 8 Song 🎵") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgI0p1zf31k)

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**Author:** ![ahopkins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/ahopkins/32/301_2.png) [@ahopkins](https://discuss.python.org/u/ahopkins)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 11:33am UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/the-pep-8-song-by-leon-sandoy/7166/2 "2021-02-12T11:33:26Z")

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> <https://twitter.com/israelfruchter/status/1360115234460073987?s=21>
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> Andromeda Yelton @ThatAndromeda

Love it. Maybe a PEP to adopt it as the official anthem?

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**Author:** ![encukou](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/encukou/32/2461_2.png) [@encukou](https://discuss.python.org/u/encukou)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 7:26pm UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/the-pep-8-song-by-leon-sandoy/7166/3 "2021-02-12T19:26:41Z")

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The song repeats “never ever”, while [PEP 8](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008) begins by saying that it’s not always applicable and continues with a list of some of the reasons to break the rules.

Don’t get me wrong, this is an amazing and beautiful song. But it’s OK for a song to have a bit of parody/caricature in it, and to be somewhat misleading if you don’t know the original. It just doesn’t work that well as an anthem.

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**Author:** ![ahopkins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/ahopkins/32/301_2.png) [@ahopkins](https://discuss.python.org/u/ahopkins)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 7:37pm UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/the-pep-8-song-by-leon-sandoy/7166/4 "2021-02-13T19:37:33Z")

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Just having a little fun and showing my appreciation for the gentleman than spent some time and effort to put this out there. I support that. Not a serious proposal and no need to give it serious analysis.

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**Author:** ![ferdnyc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/ferdnyc/32/6325_2.png) [@ferdnyc](https://discuss.python.org/u/ferdnyc)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2021, 6:40pm UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/the-pep-8-song-by-leon-sandoy/7166/5 "2021-02-28T18:40:04Z")

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OTOH, it’s a golden opportunity to draft a silly-numbered PEP. My top picks would be either **PEP 33⅓** (for all dozen people both old enough, and inclined, to appreciate that in-joke) or **PEP 44100** (to take its more modern equivalent).