# Twitter thread re: Big Picture **URL:** https://discuss.python.org/t/twitter-thread-re-big-picture/874 **Category:** Packaging **Created:** [February 12, 2019, 6:24am UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/twitter-thread-re-big-picture/874 "2019-02-12T06:24:40Z") **Posts on this page:** 1 **Showing post:** 10
### Author: ![cjerdonek](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/cjerdonek/32/63_2.png) [@cjerdonek](https://discuss.python.org/u/cjerdonek) #### Post date: [February 13, 2019, 6:01am UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/twitter-thread-re-big-picture/874/10 "2019-02-13T06:01:04Z")
One of the things I learned from that thread is that there are people and groups of people (companies, etc) that should be talking to one another but aren’t – to the larger detriment of the Python community and ecosystem. For example, here is [one comment Nathaniel made](https://twitter.com/vorpalsmith/status/1095175752117411840) last night: > this libstdc++ thing sounds way worse than I realized. Are they literally vendoring their own libstdc++? And then _also_ doing something to break all the encapsulation stuff we do? I thought they were still running auditwheel to get isolation, despite using the wrong toolchain which lead to this [Warehouse issue (#5420)](https://github.com/pypa/warehouse/issues/5420) being filed. Where should those discussions that need to be happening take place? Twitter? Among individuals rather than in a more open forum? I know we can’t force people to talk about things on Discourse, but I thought this was the forum we set up for that purpose? Independent of that, can someone with a good understanding of the issue give a bird’s eye summary of what the larger issue is? Like, [here is one comment](https://twitter.com/pwang/status/1095188815713587201) from Peter Wang (Co-Founder & CTO of Anaconda) that drew my eye: > I don’t have any silver bullets to suggest. I’m merely cautioning against “good enough incrementalism” because I don’t think it’s enough to get us across this adaptive valley, at the speed that our users need. > Maybe it’s a time for a long, hard look at Python’s module/pkg system. Incidentally, Peter was also [a candidate for the Steering Council](https://discuss.python.org/t/steering-council-nomination-peter-wang/694). His comment was both a bit concerning to me, as well as mysterious, because I didn’t know what he was getting at by the last sentence. --- _[View the full topic](https://discuss.python.org/t/twitter-thread-re-big-picture/874)._