# Vote on Core-Dev chat choice **URL:** \ **Category:** Committers\ **Created:** [May 22, 2021, 11:06pm UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/vote-on-core-dev-chat-choice/8870 "2021-05-22T23:06:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Senthil](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/senthil/32/18300_2.png) [@Senthil](https://discuss.python.org/u/Senthil)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2021, 11:06pm UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/vote-on-core-dev-chat-choice/8870/1 "2021-05-22T23:06:01Z")
Hello Python Core Developers, I had brought up a discussion in python-committers list ([Discussion](https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-committers@python.org/thread/BVPITIYRECSGCX2JUTMT7F7CCCYQSK4K/), [Summary](https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-committers@python.org/thread/J7XSINSNWKNMYUVOXNJVGZWBECHVDHSB/)) for a core-dev only chat. ### Proposal Have Private Committers only chat channel. It _might_ be similar to #Committers category here, or the python-committers mailing list. Given the chat platform nature, it will be a social, informal team-only discussion channel. It is more for effervescent communication medium. ### Process Based on the discussions and voting, if we end up with a consensus. I will make a formal proposal to the steering council to make a decision, including request for changes, on this topic. _Poll ([view on site](https://discuss.python.org/t/vote-on-core-dev-chat-choice/8870/1))_ _Poll ([view on site](https://discuss.python.org/t/vote-on-core-dev-chat-choice/8870/1))_ #### Few Notes - Aim is not disrupt existing systems or add yet another communication channel. Channels in use like #python-dev or pyslackers or Python Discord server will continue to exist and serve it’s purpose. - The use of zulip is always an option, however it is [extremely inactive](https://python.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/116410-zulip/topic/Why.20didn't.20Zulip.20Catch.20on.20with.20python-dev/near/239136087). I believe the answer choice, “let’s not do anything new” captures the choice if we don’t want to anything new and zulip can used. The usage of zulip or [sunset of zulip](https://discuss.python.org/t/should-we-continue-using-zulip/2816) wont be a focus of this poll. - The votes are not anonymous. - The poll will close next weekend, on 29-May-2021. Thank you, Senthil ---
**Author:** ![aeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/aeros/32/4140_2.png) [@aeros](https://discuss.python.org/u/aeros)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2021, 6:10am UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/vote-on-core-dev-chat-choice/8870/2 "2021-05-23T06:10:12Z")
I’d be glad to help with setup if we go w/ Discord. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![taleinat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/taleinat/32/92_2.png) [@taleinat](https://discuss.python.org/u/taleinat)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2021, 6:53am UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/vote-on-core-dev-chat-choice/8870/3 "2021-05-23T06:53:11Z")
I’m saddened to not see Zulip included as an option. I personally love its threading model and interface, and it’s a leading open-source alternative which actively supports open-source projects. ---
**Author:** ![pf\_moore](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/pf_moore/32/35_2.png) [@pf\_moore](https://discuss.python.org/u/pf_moore)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2021, 7:45am UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/vote-on-core-dev-chat-choice/8870/4 "2021-05-23T07:45:45Z")
I think it would be reasonable to include Zulip because the _way_ we would be using it would change. Having a completely private Zulip instance (no newcomers/non core devs “popping in with questions”) and explicitly making it a social platform rather than a technical one, could make for a very different experience than the previous attempt to use it. ---
**Author:** ![vsajip](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/vsajip/32/44_2.png) [@vsajip](https://discuss.python.org/u/vsajip)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2021, 8:18am UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/vote-on-core-dev-chat-choice/8870/5 "2021-05-23T08:18:15Z")
I agree with Tal and particularly with Paul about considering a Zulip instance for core-dev use only - just as some Discord adherents don’t want to use the all-comers Python Discord, a Zulip instance with _only_ core-dev conversations might feel different/work differently to the existing one. The main objection to Zulip seems to be that an extra step is needed to start a conversation, do I have that right? According to Zulip’s “Getting started” guide, > When starting a new conversation, remember to start a new topic. Don’t overthink it; the first 2-3 words that come to your mind are probably fine. Using topics may take some attention at the beginning, but after a few days of using Zulip it will feel like second nature. I’ve participated more as a responder in conversations than started them (wouldn’t that be true for most people?), so I can’t say it’s been a particular problem for me in practice. If discussions are likely to go beyond the social, a better structure for threading seems useful to have. If it’s more ephemeral stuff, of course that matters less. Maybe have a pre-created ephemeral topic that people can respond to? I will of course use whatever the consensus ends up being 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![pitrou](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/pitrou/32/28_2.png) [@pitrou](https://discuss.python.org/u/pitrou)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2021, 10:55am UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/vote-on-core-dev-chat-choice/8870/6 "2021-05-23T10:55:02Z")
> [@vsajip](#): > > Maybe have a pre-created ephemeral topic that people can respond to? Indeed, you can always have a persistent topic for miscellaneous discussions. ---
**Author:** ![Senthil](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/senthil/32/18300_2.png) [@Senthil](https://discuss.python.org/u/Senthil)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 4:25pm UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/vote-on-core-dev-chat-choice/8870/7 "2021-06-03T16:25:22Z")
This vote is closed. - 87% of us felt we could experiment with something new. - 82% of us have voted for a Discord Server. I will write a proposal based on the feedback shared in various topics and submit it the steering council. Thank you, Senthil ---
**Author:** ![thomas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/thomas/32/5492_2.png) [@thomas](https://discuss.python.org/u/thomas)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 12:21pm UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/vote-on-core-dev-chat-choice/8870/8 "2021-07-20T12:21:18Z")
FYI, I created a Discord server and did some basic setup. We need some more admins as well as get invites to the right people, so if anyone still wants to volunteer for that, let me know. ---
**Author:** ![corona10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/corona10/32/9943_2.png) [@corona10](https://discuss.python.org/u/corona10)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 3:01pm UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/vote-on-core-dev-chat-choice/8870/9 "2021-07-21T15:01:52Z")
I am not an expert on community management but if you need some volunteers please let me know. I want to help with this experiment 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![aeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/aeros/32/4140_2.png) [@aeros](https://discuss.python.org/u/aeros)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 3:13am UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/vote-on-core-dev-chat-choice/8870/10 "2021-07-22T03:13:00Z")
> [@thomas](#): > > We need some more admins as well as get invites to the right people, so if anyone still wants to volunteer for that, let me know. I’d like to volunteer 🙂 Discord uname: `aeros#0717` ---
**Author:** ![corona10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/corona10/32/9943_2.png) [@corona10](https://discuss.python.org/u/corona10)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 5:45pm UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/vote-on-core-dev-chat-choice/8870/11 "2021-07-22T17:45:32Z")
If empty seat as volunteer is available. `corona10#5130` 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![iritkatriel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/iritkatriel/32/2615_2.png) [@iritkatriel](https://discuss.python.org/u/iritkatriel)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 1:07pm UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/vote-on-core-dev-chat-choice/8870/12 "2021-07-29T13:07:26Z")
I don’t think I got an invitation - Irit#5520 ---
**Author:** ![steve.dower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/steve.dower/32/56_2.png) [@steve.dower](https://discuss.python.org/u/steve.dower)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 1:28pm UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/vote-on-core-dev-chat-choice/8870/13 "2021-07-29T13:28:19Z")
The invitation is in our private category on this site. It’s not meant to be open to the general public, so it’s not in this category.