# Where to nerd out about python in the DPO? **URL:** \ **Category:** Discourse Feedback\ **Created:** [September 22, 2025, 10:15pm UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/where-to-nerd-out-about-python-in-the-dpo/103902 "2025-09-22T22:15:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kevrod07](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/kevrod07/32/14350_2.png) [@kevrod07](https://discuss.python.org/u/kevrod07)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 10:15pm UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/where-to-nerd-out-about-python-in-the-dpo/103902/1 "2025-09-22T22:15:26Z")
is there a particular place in DPO where i can just nerd out on what i’m working out? is it really python-help? it doesn’t really feel like the best place since it’s cluttered with people asking for help and i feel that will prevent visbility with people who tend to be more experienced in python / lurk in other parts of DPO. ---
**Author:** ![bwoodsend](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/bwoodsend/32/4027_2.png) [@bwoodsend](https://discuss.python.org/u/bwoodsend)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 10:27pm UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/where-to-nerd-out-about-python-in-the-dpo/103902/2 "2025-09-22T22:27:10Z")
It really is just the help category (which is treated as a catch-all). FWIW, you have to actively mute the help category to not see it in the [/latest](https://discuss.python.org/latest) feed so I wouldn’t really call it significantly less visible. ---
**Author:** ![tim.one](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/tim.one/32/282_2.png) [@tim.one](https://discuss.python.org/u/tim.one)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 4:30am UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/where-to-nerd-out-about-python-in-the-dpo/103902/3 "2025-09-23T04:30:35Z")
The Powers That Be have, best I can tell, always opposed opening this platform to general discussions.. Like, e.g, here: > [@Reconsider the "Users" category?](https://discuss.python.org/t/reconsider-the-users-category/3365/102): > > That would be a sad outcome. Hence why I’m not proposing that, but saying what the realistic outcomes are from my perspective if people insist on a “Discussions” category. I appreciate folks want to help other people out, but we have a scaling problem here that is not easy to solve (don’t forget we have tens of millions of potential users of this place as it is if you consider the entire Python community). I’m okay with the idea that asking for help for that potentially esoteric issue that … So, ya, Python Help is it. I get my needs to “just talk” met by private mailing lists. On Discourse, the DM system can be used for private conversations among people selected in advance. People can leave such a group as they please. Really quite a nice way to carry on discussion with limited appeal, with limited groups. But they’re not publicly visible. ---
**Author:** ![notatallshaw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/notatallshaw/32/10861_2.png) [@notatallshaw](https://discuss.python.org/u/notatallshaw)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 4:46am UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/where-to-nerd-out-about-python-in-the-dpo/103902/4 "2025-09-23T04:46:19Z")
Yeah, it’s been brought up several times: > [@Is there a Users category?](https://discuss.python.org/t/is-there-a-users-category/61861/): > > Hello, I came about [About the Committers category](https://discuss.python.org/t/about-the-committers-category/19) which clarified regular members couldn’t participate to the discussions in Committers. The message mentions a Users category which I’m failing to locate. Thus my question, is there a user-oriented community discussion place? I can appreciate some categories require a certain role to participate but that means there doesn’t seem to be a space for us lot, regular members. Maybe that would put too much pressure on moderation though? Thanks all … > [@Missing #users category](https://discuss.python.org/t/missing-users-category/37480): > > In the categories listing it can be seen Core Development Discussions relating to the development of Python (usage of Python should be discussed in the #users category, new ideas for Python to #ideas). but no #users category is visible? Edited: Aha. When posting without pre formating #users is rendered as #Python Help. Maybe then something can be done in the caption of Core Development so it reads Python help? > [@Is there a category for fun, semi on-topic stuff?](https://discuss.python.org/t/is-there-a-category-for-fun-semi-on-topic-stuff/54770): > > I wanted to make a post in a [tier list format](https://images.app.goo.gl/wA3R8rGePqLQevCf8) rating various PEPs. I would share my rating and post it the list on TierMaker so others can rate it and share their own. I think it would be really funny and interesting seeing what other members hear think about certain features. This is just one idea, but I can think of a few more Python, “meme-like” things I would probably want to post here. I know this doesn’t contribute in any way to Python’s development, so I don’t want to spam an existing … > [@Can I write fun / esoteric python code here?](https://discuss.python.org/t/can-i-write-fun-esoteric-python-code-here/49583): > > Hello, just asking if I can post here (probably in Help category) some python code that is funny / convoluted / obfuscated or esoteric… (various adjectives can be given). Something like easter-eggs. I am lacking this kind of section in this forum… But I think it can be quite educative. (Of course unless the code is malicious, but I don’t mean this kind of stuff.) M. ---
**Author:** ![kevrod07](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/kevrod07/32/14350_2.png) [@kevrod07](https://discuss.python.org/u/kevrod07)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 6:08am UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/where-to-nerd-out-about-python-in-the-dpo/103902/5 "2025-09-23T06:08:27Z")
Thanks for the response, I’ll end up just posting there then. ---
**Author:** ![kevrod07](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/kevrod07/32/14350_2.png) [@kevrod07](https://discuss.python.org/u/kevrod07)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 6:08am UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/where-to-nerd-out-about-python-in-the-dpo/103902/6 "2025-09-23T06:08:47Z")
I see, seems like people are asking for it, I wonder what holds the admins back. ---
**Author:** ![tim.one](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/tim.one/32/282_2.png) [@tim.one](https://discuss.python.org/u/tim.one)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 6:32am UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/where-to-nerd-out-about-python-in-the-dpo/103902/7 "2025-09-23T06:32:45Z")
> [@kevrod07](#): > > seems like people are asking for it, I wonder what holds the admins back. It’s work for the moderators. Users flagging posts requires the volunteer “spare time” mods looking into why, and whether the flags should be cleared, and whether the flagged poster needs to be “talked to”, or even suspended. More time and more work for them. They’re keen on moderation here, and shudder at the prospect of having many more posts in need of their attention, and probably especially so in a new category where people would feel freer to just “have fun” (which is bound to offend some people, reasonably so or not, but either way it takes moderator time and attention and work to resolve). I’d personally take a stab at having a new category with a policy of letting the automated “hidden by community flags” have its way, with no moderator attention unless explicitly asked to. Indirect moderation _by_ the community. Open to “flag abuse”, but that’s a tradeoff to consider. Then again, “one size fits all” is corporate policy in almost all organizations. ---
**Author:** ![sinoroc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/sinoroc/32/1607_2.png) [@sinoroc](https://discuss.python.org/u/sinoroc)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 4:53pm UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/where-to-nerd-out-about-python-in-the-dpo/103902/8 "2025-09-23T16:53:34Z")
I wonder if renaming “Python Help” to something like “Generic Python Discussions” would improve the current status. The way I see it, those who know know that #Python Help is the current catch-all, fallback, default category but it does not seem obvious just by the name. The description is a bit more clear but not by much. I feel like such a renaming has been suggested already. But also I agree that it seems fair to want to keep `discuss.python.org`’s focus as close as possible to the core concerns of developing Python itself rather than developing in Python. There are indeed many other places available on the internet, that likely have much more moderation resources available and can afford to host a much wider range of Python-related discussions. ---
**Author:** ![fungi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/fungi/32/5963_2.png) [@fungi](https://discuss.python.org/u/fungi)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 5:15pm UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/where-to-nerd-out-about-python-in-the-dpo/103902/9 "2025-09-23T17:15:29Z")
It seems like this is coming full-circle to the beginning. It was renamed to “help” because the bulk of the people who don’t know what topic to post in are newcomers looking for help with Python, and the general users topic wasn’t the obvious place for them to do that so they would post random questions in Python Software Foundation or Core Development or any of a number of other inappropriate topics instead. After everything else was tried to persuade, redirect or pre-educate them, renaming the topic to help was the one thing that seemed to actually work as a honeypot to (mostly) keep them from flooding the other topics. ---
**Author:** ![JacobCoffee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/jacobcoffee/32/36007_2.png) [@JacobCoffee](https://discuss.python.org/u/JacobCoffee)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 7:08pm UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/where-to-nerd-out-about-python-in-the-dpo/103902/10 "2025-09-23T19:08:34Z")
You’re welcome to nerd out on [r/Python](https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/). Although it’s not everyone’s cup of tea, I enjoy trying to make it less… bad in my off hours 😅 ---
**Author:** ![kevrod07](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discuss.python.org/kevrod07/32/14350_2.png) [@kevrod07](https://discuss.python.org/u/kevrod07)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2025, 2:20am UTC](https://discuss.python.org/t/where-to-nerd-out-about-python-in-the-dpo/103902/11 "2025-09-24T02:20:03Z")
will do that!