The JSON module’s core features are fairly straightforward. Why should it take a third-party module to serialize and deserialize yaml files ? How about including pyyaml, which seems pretty popular, to do that job in the standard library ? I found no issue or thread in this topic about this and I’…

[image] Add yaml to the standard library Python Help Should we add yaml to the standard library? Then it can be used in environments that do not permit third-party packages. Personally, I prefer the ruaml.yaml implementation by Anthon van der Neut because it is more featu…

Welp, if you keep moving topics about improvement ideas to the help section for no reason, don’t be surprised if people don’t find them and open new threads every four days. I don’t need help with handling yaml files, I can do that with the library I mentioned, so this has nothing to do with the he…

While YAML is a widely used format, it’s spec is incredibly complex and I’m not sure that maintenance burden would want to be taken on. Go has had a similar conclusion in the past: proposal: encoding/yaml: Add YAML support in the standard library · Issue #61023 · golang/go · GitHub

Oh, I didn’t know that. I expected a sort of indent-driven JSON with comments, but looking into it, it does seem quite intricate :sweat_smile:

Me moving this topic is the result of a recent discussion that the Ideas section is getting filled with incomplete ideas that don’t show the necessary research being done beforehand. Essentially Ideas is for at least “half-finished” proposals , which this is not. A few basic research pointers: htt…

Well in this particular case, the previous thread being moved away lead to this useless thread being created - because when looking whether the idea had been proposed before, I had no interest in reading about people asking in Help for how to use pyyaml. So despite your (plural) initial goal of drai…

@MegaIng I will say, this post doesn’t really seem like it is asking for “help”, so I can see why there would be pushback, as I don’t think everyone will have that context and it may not intuitively make sense to be put in “help”. I think the distinction between what is a “finished” idea proposal is…

[image] Gouvernathor: And also, this proposal is not “half-finished”. It may be bad for reasons that are simple to explain, but if you set yourself to “implementing a json-like yaml library in the stdlib” or “including pyyaml in the stdlib”, there’s no real wiggle room, it’s a pretty straightfor…

[image] Cornelius Krupp: You self-admittedly don’t know the scope of YAML and therefore are not the correct person to judge if this is a good idea to add - I.e. input from other people is required to even make the most basic judgments if the idea is feasible. Absolutely, and that doesn’t make…

[image] Gouvernathor: Would you like to change something in Python? It seems like you’re not looking to make any changes—that’s my takeaway from this thread. Your main question is about why x isn’t in the standard library, which is a topic for Python Help .

YAML module, or pyyaml in the stdlib

Python Help

MegaIng (Cornelius Krupp) May 21, 2024, 12:12am 2