Install python on windows 10 experience is horrible -- how do i get numpy?

so i down load the 3.8.1 installer
run it
ok, looks good
try some code.

numpy is missing.
get a cmd window
“python pip install numpy --user”
doesn’t find pip
so, python.org installer doesn’t install a working configuration.
i tell myself, keep it professional, self,… but i am surprised and dismayed

can anyone tell me what to do next? no youtube please, i am literate. some environment variables need to be set up. But why doesn’t the installer do that? create a basic operable image?

After you downloaded Python 3.8, can you try:

python3.8 -m pip install numpy --user

Not sure your situation, but I would also recommend installing numpy or any additional packages in virtual environment.

$ python3.8 -m venv env
$ env/bin/activate
(env)$ python3.8 -m pip install numpy 

Thank you very much!

$python -m venv env
$ env/scripts/activate
(env)$ python -m pip install numpy 

it turns out that using "python" instead of "python3.8" and using "scripts" rather than "bin" will conform to how the installer and w10 play together.

The second page of the installer presents you with an option to “Add Python to environment variables”. This prepends both the installation and scripts directory to either the current-user or system PATH, depending on whether an “all users” installation is selected. For an “all users” installation it also modifies the value of PATHEXT to append “.PY” and “.PYW”.

After installation, if PATH was updated, Explorer (the Windows graphical shell) should update its environment with the new value. The installer implements this by sending an “Environment” message to top-level windows, which causes Explorer to reload its environment. Instances of CMD or PowerShell have no windows (the console window is hosted by conhost.exe), so they don’t see the “Environment” window message. You have to start a new instance of CMD or PowerShell from Explorer to get the updated PATH. After that, pip.exe in the “Scripts” directory should work. If not, you can fall back on using the py launcher plus the -m command-line option that executes a module as a script, e.g. py -m pip install numpy --user.

You can learn more about the installation process and the launcher at the following page: https://docs.python.org/3/using/windows.html