So is this the point where people (like me) need to self declare that they want to be PSF members for the purposes of voting (and maybe standing) in the council elections? If so, could we have a reminder of how to do so?
Yes, there are three types of voting member:
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Supporting Member: $99 annual membership, with sliding scale for lower amounts where needed.
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Contributing Member: you self-certify, this is the one for you @pf_moore:
You qualify as a Contributing Member if you dedicate at least five hours per month volunteering on projects which advance the mission of the PSF by creating or maintaining open source software available to the public at no charge, organizing Python events, participating in one of the PSF’s working groups, etc.
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Fellows: these are people who have been nominated and selected for their work on Python.
There’s also free Basic membership but it has no voting rights.
Go to www.python.org/psf/membership/ to sign up.
On a procedural note, I’m assuming that for the outstanding PEPs where I’m currently PEP delegate (808 and 825), I’ll continue being responsible for them, and will make the pronouncements in due course. There doesn’t seem to be any point trying to hand them over to the new PC.
I’m not aware of any new PEPs that are likely to need to be considered before the PC becomes operational, but if any do come up, we can worry about them on a case by case basis. I’m happy to handle simpler ones, and discuss the best approach with the PC for more complex ones.
PEP 825 (Wheel variants - format) is a little problematic - the PEP itself is fine, but it is only the starting point for the much more complicated follow-up PEPs that will define actual variants. My expectation is that I will provisionally accept PEP 825 with some pretty strong requirements on the follow-up PEPs to ensure that we don’t end up with a standardised mechanism that can’t be used for the key motivating use cases. I’ll discuss this with the PC once set up, as I think continuity will be important here.
Yes. That’s how I personally expect things to operate in the near term (no changes), until the SC changes their delegation. It’d also be reasonable for you to defer stuff to the Packaging Council, and I’ll happily defer to your judgement on that.
PS: I’m hoping that the inaugural Packaging council has both Paul and Donald on it, for continuity and because they’re the people with a lotta context (similar to how the inaugural SC had Guido).
Not speaking for anyone else… I’d expect that PSF staff will only have bandwidth to execute on all of the election stuff after PyCon US (so about a month from now). And, I think that’s perfectly reasonable.
Agreed!
We can also discuss logistics at the Packaging Summit, being very mindful (as always) that not everyone will be able to attend.
Amazing news, everyone!
Given that there have been multiple “what’s going on with this” posts here in the past… I’m here to report that away-from-this-thread progress is happening on the Packaging Council (PC). ![]()
My current understanding is that work for the election will begin after the PSF staff have had a (well deserved!) post-PyCon-US break. It’s looking likely to align with the timing of the PSF board elections.[1]
Some “at PyCon US” updates:
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There was a short discussion about the PC, at the Packaging Summit (relevant section from the summit notes).
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The PC was discussed in the first answer during the Steering Council’s keynote panel.[2]
I personally had multiple conversations with the multiple folks at PyCon US about the PC, spanning from what folks want from it, to expressing interest in running for it. It was nice to get in-person feedback from the community on this, especially since almost all of it was positive! ^.^
And, finally, this is worth lifting this out of the packaging summit discussion notes: @barry and I will be supporting with PSF staff, as community liasons for the inaugral election.[3]
The intent is to make it possible to vote in only the PC election, or only the board election, or both – with relevant communications being cleanly separated as well. TBD details and feasibility of this – I expect those will come with the election announcement. ↩︎
It’s not up on YouTube yet – the question was along the lines of “does the core team care about packaging?”
↩︎The PC will do this for future elections, after it has been established. ↩︎