So it’s “totally wrong” that there’s no info at all about GC.OS financials, but also you haven’t decided what the structure is and it’s not documented anywhere?
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This is getting wildly off-topic, but I do feel like Tim is being unfairly maligned here. This matches my experience as well:
It’s my experience that it’s been extraordinarily hard to find any info about GC.OS’s organizational structure, history, or finances.
I am not an interested party in any sense except rubber-necking (I am not a PSF member, I have never received PSF money, and I mainly want to see Python continue to be maintained and promote a welcoming community), but I have tried a couple times to find out more about GC.OS as a result of these threads. The main thing I found, apart from the website, is a second employee listed on LinkedIn.
It did not occur to me to look for a “GC.OS supported” badge (which cannot be found with Ctrl-f) on the projects, so the relationship claims were difficult to vet, apart from assuming that you could speak for the projects you personally led. Now that I know what to look for (Code search results · GitHub) I can see that several projects have added the badge. I also would not have guessed that the sktime OpenCollective serves as the financial records for GC.OS. I did not find it in my brief looks, but the page also does not seem to mention GC.OS as a fiscal host, a sponsor or a recipient, and the about section does not mention it at all. And the Discord server does not appear to be listed on the website at all. The only way to contact I was able to find was emailing info@gcos.ai or sending mail to Ehingen.
I recognize that setting up an organization and communicating its activities clearly is difficult, especially when the thing the organization is intended to do is support the thing you actually want to spend your time on, such as coding. Being internationally legible is presumably lower priority than getting money to developers and complying with local regulations, which is fine, but then your reputation will be purely by word-of-mouth.
I believe that Tim has been trying to be helpful, giving you feedback about how you and your organization are likely to be perceived from the outside. That’s my goal here as well, and I hope you can take this message in that spirit.
Anyway, if you’re looking for something to emulate, I might suggest NumPy - About Us.
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Well, that letter does not corroborate your claim about “the very black communities that are being denied funding” (funding was delayed not denied, which is still unfortunate but not quite the same thing).
Saying that you might be the only member does not meet the definition of a conspiracy theory. It’s just a reasonable assumption, given that GC.OS (unlike the PSF, notice) does not say anything about either its membership or its organizational structure.
You are being asked questions about GC.OS as an organization. Answering with the number of contributors in a GitHub project is not a serious answer.
It’s amusing that you keep trying to deflect the discussion, instead of simply providing factual answers. Does this attitude reflect how you would like the PSF to be transparent and accountable? If so, that would be a clear regression compared to present.
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Well, that letter does not corroborate your claim about “the very black communities that are being denied funding” (funding was delayed not denied, which is still unfortunate but not quite the same thing).
I see, is this pointer of mine to alleged injustice and discrimination at PSF that is triggering so many people in this thread to attack me, or GC.OS (the organization where I work but that is not directly linked to my candidature).
For evidence: Read. The. Blogpost.
You will find a letter there that gives corroboration and further details.
Regarding “delayed is not denied”, semantic hair splitting. If it is delayed enough to be useless, it is in effect denied. It is like “I did throw him off the building, but that was not the cause of death, it was rapid deceleration and polytrauma when hitting the pavement”.
I also just want to repeat the explanation on how subtle racism is, and how much more covert types of racism are tied to plausible deniability. E.g., harm is not announced as such, but it is delivered in forms that are easy to deny.
Similarly, aggression and punishment are delivered in forms that are - ostensibly - unrelated to motivation or triggers, so they are easy to deny.
For instance, an internet mob attacking a person on 100 different topics and finding great reasons to do so.
First of all - the clarification from my side - as @fkiraly show on LinkedIn - in fact there was some communication between him and Agata. My assumption that there was no communication at all was based on her answer to my question if she was aware about that initiative to which she denied. So for this part - my apologies.
I was convinced that PSF is a trademark to use which you have to have an agreement with PSF trademark committee but after looking on PSF Trademark Usage Policy | Python Software Foundation - i’m not sure. But at the end - IANAL.
Anyway - I don’t have anything to say about the initiative which would transform the organization form. My concerns were only about misleading usage of PSF abbrev (in fact on first contact I was convinced that there was some incorrect autocorrection of some kind) and use of unaffiliated people in the promotional post for the initiative.
As @Mariatta pointed - discussion about federation should be moved outside of this thread.
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Split from Disclaimer: Unauthorized Use of My Name on LinkedIn and GitHub by a nominee in the 2025 Board Elections, title attempts to summarize initial question/discussion. Attempted to move off topic posts to this new topic, but had to make a call somewhere. Please refer to previous topic for context, but do not continue to post about this there.
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Ough. I was made aware about the single specific linkedin post: Why I am leaving EuroSciPy 2024 (Poland) before it really started - decision makers from abroad have scheduled a full conference clash with the local pycon Poland, without coordinating with the local… | Franz Király
After seeing it, I think that this is my last msg in the topic around this person.
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A reminder that the current election is close to being over … “ends on Tuesday, September 16, 2025, at 2:00 pm UTC”
Which I wouldn’t know about. I spent an obscene amount of time trying to find out hard info when we had occasion to correspond about different matters a while back. It’s not an ongoing hobby of mine. I should have made that clearer, for which I apologize. Perhaps it’s easier now to find out some things. But it should not require an open-ended fishing expedition through an ever-growing collection of GitHub sites and discord servers … to find out trivial things.
Like, who is on the Board? I still don’t know.
You could instead take that as feedback about how your site could be improved.
For the rest, I’ll let it drop. The idea that the PSF employs me as some kind of “controlled opposition” to you is hilariously off base. The PSF organization appears to have little use for me,
I’ve never claimed to be a revolutionary. I’ve always been more of a subversive. But I don’t belong to any cult, and especially not to ones people seem to assume I pledge allegiance. I speak only for myself, and call things as I see them. Sometimes that’s in your favor, sometimes not. But I’m always in favor of open debate.
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Thanks for the reference. I can’t really think of a word that could aptly describe that post (especially the “Germany’s blitzkrieg invasion of Poland” part).
He also referred to Poland as “Eastern European”, which won’t go down well there.
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I’m not European, but “Germany’s blitzkrieg invasion of Poland" doesn’t sound the least strained to American ears. It was a then-new kind of “lightning warfare”, crushing the target swiftly with overwhelmingly superior air and armored attacks. It was weeks before the USSR joined in, but Poland’s fate was already sealed.
When the US reinvented the approach under the name “shock & awe”, it was instead a shining example of defending freedom 
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I don’t think anyone[1] is confused about the history. The truly ridiculous part was to make that reference when discussing a scheduling conflict between two Python conferences.
particularly in Europe ↩︎
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Ah, got it now! Thank you for spelling it out. Yes, there was no plausibly operative connection to my eyes either.
OTOH, while not “a revolutionary” myself (I often agree about the societal ills they’re opposed to, but rarely agree their approaches will lead to better outcomes), “extreme” sensitivity to historical injustices is par for the course. OTOH, “extreme” indifference to them is par for the other course.
Balance in all things, including extremism .